I'm thrilled to be talking with Matt Beaudreau today. And I think you'll love joining in our conversation about doing crazy things that society doesn't always agree with.

Matt, a well-known speaker and co-creator of Apogee Strong, talks about how we all consistently seeing patterns in society over and over and naively thinking that, "okay, I'll take the next step, and that's where I will gain some element of control to be able to actually impact the situation."

Matt breaks down how this thought process is all wrong, how he stepped out of that rut, and how we can too.

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S11 E7: Thinking Outside the System with Matt Beaudreau

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