This interview podcast features a conversation with Cleo Abram, a rapidly growing YouTube creator, about her video-making process and career transition from Vox. The discussion covers her four-step video creation process (pitch, info doc, outline, script), emphasizing the importance of strong visuals as the core of her storytelling. Cleo details her "Huge If True" show format, explaining how she meticulously plans visuals before writing scripts, using a visual abstract to guide the narrative. She also shares advice on securing interviews with high-profile individuals, such as NASA, by demonstrating genuine interest and respect for their time. The podcast offers practical insights for creators aiming to build a successful YouTube channel, particularly focusing on the strategic planning and visual storytelling techniques employed by Cleo.