This podcast features an interview with Richard Heinberg, an author and expert on the interconnectedness of energy, economy, and ecology. The conversation explores Heinberg's new book, "Power," which examines humanity's pursuit of power throughout history and its current unsustainable trajectory. Heinberg argues that humanity's overconsumption of resources, fueled by fossil fuels, has led to ecological crises and extreme wealth inequality, creating a self-reinforcing feedback loop. He suggests that a necessary shift involves reducing energy consumption and challenging the growth-oriented nature of capitalism, advocating for a more equitable and sustainable future focused on self-limitation and the pursuit of beauty. The interview concludes with advice on how individuals can prepare for a changing world by fostering self-sufficiency and community.