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We are getting ready for Championship Sunday but first Jason and Travis share their thoughts on the College Football Playoffs, the great TikTok blackout of 2025, and what rules changes Jason was willing to pitch Roger Goodell.

We also have a lot of football to talk about starting with Travis’ thoughts on the Chiefs advancing to their 7th straight AFC title game, his mentality when it comes time for the playoffs, and Jason’s candid opinions about the ongoing referee debate surrounding the Chiefs.

There’s also a breakdown of the rest of the divisional round with the Saquon running wild in Snow Bowl II, Jayden Daniel’s huge upset over the Lions, and Lamar Jackson coming up short against the Bills.

Also, find out which member of the New Heights team has a hobby horser in the family and just how long it took us to name Travis’ playoff beard.

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Flipping the Playoff Switch, Fixing the CFP, Why We Love Snow Games & Hobby Horsing Around | Ep 121

New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce