This monologue podcast episode from PsycHacks, hosted by Dr. Orion Taraban, challenges the common belief that men desire a challenge in relationships. The speaker argues that men's lives are already sufficiently challenging, and instead of seeking challenges, men desire a "chase." He differentiates between a "chase," which involves playful pursuit and mutual attraction, and a "challenge," which is characterized by conflict and unnecessary difficulty. Dr. Taraban uses the example of Nora Vincent's experience in her book "Self-Made Man" to illustrate the challenges men face. Ultimately, the podcast suggests that women should focus on creating a playful pursuit rather than presenting themselves as a challenge to attract and maintain healthy relationships with men.