This interview podcast features Yu Hu, founder of Kaito AI, discussing his company's innovative approach to information and capital distribution in the crypto space. The conversation begins with Hu's background and transition from traditional finance to building Kaito AI, a search engine designed to improve information access and efficiency in the crypto market. Key topics include the concept of "InfoFi" (using market forces to signal information truthfulness), the importance of personal branding in the AI era, and Kaito's novel "YAPS" system for rewarding valuable social contributions with tokenized attention. Hu details Kaito's AI-driven algorithm, its current flaws, and future plans for decentralization, emphasizing the need for a fairer, more meritocratic system for rewarding creators and users. The podcast concludes with Hu's prediction that attention will become a primary currency and his vision for Kaito's role in shaping the future of information and capital distribution.