This co-hosted podcast, "The Money Stuff," discusses the recent retirement of Nate Anderson, founder of Hindenburg Research, a short-selling firm. The hosts analyze Anderson's decision, exploring the challenges of short-selling and alternative monetization strategies like whistleblower rewards. They delve into a CFPB case against Capital One for allegedly misleading customers about savings rates, highlighting the complexities of banking practices and regulatory scrutiny. Finally, they examine a lawsuit against American Airlines over ESG investing, debating the motivations behind ESG and its impact on financial returns. A key takeaway is the discussion of the various ways short-selling firms generate revenue, including selling research to hedge funds and pursuing whistleblower rewards.