“我希望听到这期节目的每个人都能找寻到我找到的，我也想说我发现了我的道路，这不是条容易的路。容易的路是选择在银行工作，有个好的薪水，过着轻松的生活。容易的路不是一连7年，一天都没有休息。容易的路不是放弃金钱。所以，你想成为什么样的人，你是谁，这样的选择你每天都要去做。每一天你做出的选择，都会让你的生活变得多复杂一点点，多艰难一点点。所以，不断地从你的舒适圈逃离吧。这会体验给你一种不一样的东西，而最终，它给你的是一种渴望，这是从你的内部把你点燃的火焰，能让你排出毒素。因为你对事情应有的状态感到不舒服，你不喜欢这样，你对自己看到的或是正在做的事情感到不舒服，这样你就会不停往前前进。”这期节目咱们继续与新西兰知名的冰淇淋品牌“Giapo”创始人Gianpaolo畅聊人生。 " I hope everybody who listening this will find what I found, I also would like to say that I found what I find and this is not the easy way. The easy way was working in the band and got a good salary, and live a easy life. The easy was is not the never have a day off in seven years. The easy way was not give up on the money, so you make choice everyday on who you want to be. and who you are. and everyday you make choice that will make you life a little more complicated, more difficult. So continuous escaping from the comfort zone. Somehow that will give you xxx, that xxx will give you is the desire, it's the fire that burning inside you and get more shit out. Because you are uncomfortable with the way things are. You don't like it, you don't feel comfortable with what you see or with what you doing. and so you keep pushing it. " Let's continue the interview with Gianpaolo, the found of Giapo ice cream in Auckland, NZ.

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112期：对话·和冰淇淋达人Giapo聊人生（下） - Giapo's life, work and ice cream. Vol.2

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