This BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast interview explores the theory of an "upside era" in real estate for 2025. Host Dave Meyer presents his hypothesis of a market bottoming out, focusing on increased transaction volume and inventory, while acknowledging muted price recovery. Guest Scott Trench, CEO of BiggerPockets, largely agrees on transaction volume but offers a more nuanced perspective on price changes and rent growth, emphasizing the impact of new housing supply. They discuss the influence of interest rates, wage growth, and migration trends on the market, with Trench highlighting the potential for strong rent growth in 2026 and suggesting investment opportunities in multifamily properties and specific geographic locations. The discussion also touches upon the stock market's valuation and the risks associated with Bitcoin, offering insights into diverse investment strategies.