In "The Science of Happiness," Dacher Keltner interviews Drew Ackerman, host of the "Sleep With Me" podcast, about the science of sleep and practices to improve it. Drew recounts his childhood struggles with insomnia and how he now uses his podcast to help others fall asleep. They discuss science-backed tips for better sleep, including getting sunlight, avoiding caffeine and screens, and using a worry journal. Drew shares his experience with the worry journal, noting it helped him relax before bed. The episode also features Eti Ben Simon, a neuroscientist, who explains how sleep loss affects social interactions, leading to increased social distance, impaired empathy, and negative perceptions from others. The podcast emphasizes the importance of prioritizing sleep, self-compassion, and viewing sleep improvement as a process rather than a quick fix.
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