This interview podcast features Simon Hill and Drew Harrisberg discussing various health and wellness topics. The episode begins with life updates from both hosts, touching on Simon's increased focus on fulfilling activities and Drew's experience with anticipatory grief regarding his aging dog. They then delve into several studies: the impact of smartphone use on workout performance, the effects of creatine on sleep-deprived cognition, and the influence of plant vs. animal protein ratios on cardiovascular disease risk. The discussion concludes with reflections on a recent debate Simon had, highlighting the importance of evidence-based reasoning versus anecdotal storytelling in health discussions. A key takeaway is the finding that a 1.7-1.8:1 ratio of plant to animal protein significantly reduces coronary artery disease risk, even more so in higher-protein diets.