This podcast interviews Devon Eriksen, author of "Theft of Fire," focusing on future-proofing skills in the age of AI and the shortcomings of the current education system. The conversation explores Eriksen's concept of "agency"—the proactive pursuit of goals—as a key trait for success, contrasting it with the limitations of intelligence alone. Eriksen argues that the education system, funded by third parties, prioritizes worker training over self-directed learning, hindering the development of agency. He suggests cultivating agency through self-directed learning and embracing failure as a stepping stone to success, exemplified by his own transition from software engineer to independent author. The interview concludes with Eriksen's perspective on the creator economy, emphasizing the importance of building trust with an audience through consistent value creation rather than solely focusing on self-promotion.