In this podcast episode, the hosts emphasize the significance of emotional agility during tough times, especially during economic downturns. They challenge the common belief in "positive thinking" and argue that pushing aside negative emotions is not only unhealthy but also hinders effective problem-solving. Instead, they encourage listeners to recognize and understand these negative feelings as valuable information, using them to uncover deeper values and needs. By creating a space between what happens and how we respond, we can gain clarity, make decisions that align with our values, and build resilience through adversity. Key to this journey are emotional granularity—being able to pinpoint specific emotions—and practicing self-compassion.