My guest today is Michael Garfield, a paleontologist, futurist, writer, podcast host and strategic advisor whose “mind-jazz” performances — essays, music and fine art — bridge the worlds of art, science and philosophy.

This year, Michael received a $10k O’Shaughnessy Grant for his “Humans On the Loop” discussion series, which explores the nature of agency, power, responsibility and wisdom in the age of automation.

This whirlwind discussion is impossible to sum up in a couple of sentences (just look at the number of books & articles mentioned!) Ultimately, it is a conversation about a subject I think about every day: how we can live curious, collaborative and fulfilling lives in our deeply weird, complex, probabilistic world.

I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. For the full transcript, episode takeaways, and bucketloads of other goodies designed to make you go, “Hmm, that’s interesting!”, check out our Substack.

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Show Notes:

What is “mind jazz”?
Humans “ON” the loop?
The Red Queen hypothesis and the power of weirdness
Probabilistic thinking & the perils of optimization
Context collapse, pernicious convenience & coordination at scale
How organisations learn
Michael as World Emperor
MORE!

Books, Articles & Podcasts Mentioned:

Michael Garfield — Play the (Mind) Jazz (EP.246)

Infinite Loops