This podcast dives into the debate over seed oils and their alleged health impacts. While critics argue that seed oils are inflammatory and detrimental, the hosts present compelling scientific evidence indicating that substituting butter and margarine with seed oils—such as canola or corn oil—along with olive oil, is linked to lower mortality rates from various health issues, including heart disease and cancer. They contend that the real factor behind rising obesity rates is the intake of ultra-processed foods, not seed oils themselves. The discussion emphasizes the importance of addressing misinformation and rebuilding public trust in institutions while advocating for clearer science communication.