This interview podcast discusses Vince Beiser's book, "Power Metal," which explores the environmental and social impacts of mining critical minerals for the clean energy transition. The conversation begins by highlighting the significant increase in mining needed for renewable energy technologies and then delves into the negative consequences, such as child labor in cobalt mines and environmental destruction. Beiser emphasizes that while recycling is better than virgin mining, it's not a perfect solution due to its energy intensity and limitations. The discussion then shifts to potential solutions, including improved mining standards, the promise of direct lithium extraction, and the importance of the "Right to Repair" movement. The podcast concludes with Beiser advocating for reduced car ownership as a significant individual contribution to lessening the demand for these resources.