In this podcast episode, Raoul Pal sits down with Jack, co-founder of Magic Eden, a Web3 platform that started out focusing on NFTs. They delve into how Magic Eden has transformed from a Solana-based NFT marketplace into a multi-chain platform that supports both NFT and fungible token trading, with aspirations of becoming a "super dApp." The discussion highlights the challenges and strategies of building a multi-chain platform, the future of NFTs beyond their initial hype, and Magic Eden's potential to emerge as a key player in the Web3 space, possibly even competing with centralized exchanges. Additionally, they explore broader trends in the crypto world and how tokenized assets could revolutionize industries like gaming, ticketing, and finance.