In this podcast, Ryan Daniel Moran chats with Jonathan Cronstedt, the former president of Kajabi. Cronstedt shares his inspiring journey from bankruptcy to leading Kajabi's impressive rise to a $2 billion valuation. He underscores the significance of building strong relationships and recognizing pivotal moments that drive growth. According to Cronstedt, creating a successful and scalable business goes beyond just marketing; it requires a solid product, a clear purpose, and the courage to make tough choices, even if it means sacrificing short-term comfort for long-term success. He also stresses the vital role of understanding financial structures when it comes to scaling and exiting a business.