This podcast explores the decline of the plant-based and vegan movements, suggesting that the rise of the keto and carnivore diets is fueled by fear-based tactics. The speaker points out that influencers are being influenced by claims linking plant-based diets to issues like infertility and reduced masculinity, even though these problems can stem from any poorly managed diet. The focus, the speaker argues, should not be on the type of diet but on identifying and addressing the real root causes of health issues. They criticize the unfair blame placed on plant-based diets for deficiencies such as B12. Ultimately, the podcast highlights the need to understand the true causes of illness, regardless of dietary preferences.