More than a decade ago, Japan saw that China was becoming a threat to regional security. It sounded the alarm, but it took the West years to catch up.

In the second episode of a two-part series, The Economist’s senior China correspondent, Alice Su, and our Tokyo bureau chief, Noah Sneider, discuss how Japan is changing its approach to Xi Jinping’s China, and they ask if the West can learn anything from Japan’s policy.

They speak to Suzuki Hideji, a former president of the China-Japan Youth Exchange, who spent his career promoting ties between the countries, until he was detained on spying charges in China for seven years.

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