The discussion delineates AI ethics and AI safety, with AI ethics focusing on fairness, robustness, transparency, and accountability in current AI systems, citing examples like the Horizon Post Office system and the Dutch child benefit scandal. AI safety, conversely, addresses aligning AI with human values and goals to prevent unintended negative consequences, illustrated by the "monkey's paw" story and concepts like reward hacking. The speakers acknowledge the common tension between these two fields—one focused on present harms and the other on future, potentially catastrophic, risks—but conclude that solutions for both often overlap and are mutually reinforcing, contributing to a stable foundation for AI's future.
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