In this podcast episode, we delve into China's Made in China 2025 plan, tracing its decade-long quest for technological dominance and self-reliance. The conversation highlights the strategies the US has employed to counter China's progress, especially in the semiconductor sector, while considering the wider implications for national security. It also examines the evolving political landscape in the US, advocating for collaboration with Chinese talent instead of relying solely on restrictive measures. The episode concludes with a call to further investigate the effects and intricacies of the Made in China initiative.