In this podcast episode, we explore two important themes: the gap between strong economic data in America and how the public perceives it, and the perilous journey of Chinese migrants seeking safety in the U.S. The discussion reveals how political polarization complicates the connection between positive economic trends and public support for national policies. At the same time, it highlights the dangerous paths many Chinese migrants take, driven by desperate conditions in their home country, showcasing their resilience and the obstacles they encounter in their quest for asylum.