In this podcast episode, Eliza Griswold explores her journey through the intricate world of faith and the shifting dynamics of evangelicalism, especially following the Episcopal Church's split and new interpretations of Jesus's teachings. She reflects on her father's impact, the community-driven efforts of Circle of Hope, and the internal struggles around inclusivity and racial justice that contributed to the church's collapse. The discussion intertwines personal experiences with larger societal themes, highlighting the complexities of faith, identity challenges, and the irony of conservative evangelicals backing political figures like Donald Trump, all while searching for solace within religious traditions.