In this podcast episode, we delve into Georgia's changing political scene, highlighting the crucial impact of the black vote and its evolving support. We also take a closer look at Fethullah Gulen, a significant Turkish religious leader whose influence is still felt today. Through engaging discussions, the episode emphasizes the importance of political involvement that addresses the economic and civil rights issues faced by marginalized communities. We also explore Gulen's ambitious goals and his complicated relationship with President Erdogan.