In this podcast episode, Ezra Klein engages in a deep discussion with political journalist Maggie Haberman about Donald Trump's political persona. They explore his bold, unfiltered nature and its significant effects on his presidency and the Republican Party. The conversation examines how Trump's behavior has changed over time, his motivations for pursuing power, the historical failures that gave rise to Trumpism, and the intricate dynamics of the MAGA movement. Overall, the episode offers a thoughtful analysis of Trump's influence on American politics while raising questions about the uncertainties of the upcoming 2024 election.
