In this podcast episode, the hosts dive into the intriguing discussions sparked by Graham Hancock's "Ancient Apocalypse" series, which has ignited a debate about historical perspectives and the challenges disruptive discoveries pose to traditional narratives. They analyze the mysterious Pueblo Bonita site while also discussing wolf behavior through Diane Boyd's insights, seamlessly connecting the impacts of humans on wildlife with the quest for historical truth. Their conversation serves as a powerful reminder of the importance of open-mindedness and the need to reassess established beliefs in both history and our relationship with the natural world.