This podcast episode delves into the realm of big wall climbing, exploring the ethics, challenges, and triumphs of this demanding sport. The climbers share their experiences and perspectives on various ethical considerations, including the use of gear, the impact on the environment, and the pursuit of authenticity in their climbs. They also recount their exhilarating ascent of El Capitan and reflect on the difficulties faced, the strategies employed, and the emotional toll of the endeavor.