In this engaging podcast episode, the Kubernetes Podcast collaborates with the Cloud Security Podcast to delve into the intricate world of VM and container security, featuring insights from Michele Chubrika, a Cloud Security Developer Advocate at Google. Michele highlights that security goes beyond just technology; it's closely linked to how organizations operate. She dispels common myths about isolation, segregation, and misconfigurations. As they discuss the growing complexities of containerized applications and look towards promising innovations like WebAssembly, this episode underscores the vital need for strong security practices that address both technical and organizational aspects.