This podcast episode explores the challenges and opportunities associated with transitioning to clean energy sources, particularly wind and solar, and the complexities of connecting these projects to the electricity grid. It highlights the challenges faced by renewable energy developers in navigating the interconnection queue process, including lengthy wait times, significant costs, and stringent technical requirements. The episode also delves into the resilience and determination of those working in the field, and the importance of finding innovative solutions to facilitate the integration of renewable energy into the grid.