This podcast episode features Ryan Dahl, the creator of Node.js and Deno, reflecting on his journey with both technologies and the evolution of Deno 2. Dahl discusses the shift from idealism to pragmatism in Deno's development, particularly the need to integrate with the npm ecosystem for broader adoption. He emphasizes the importance of Deno's business model, licensing, and the future of JavaScript, while also detailing the new features of Deno 2, including npm integration and the JSR package registry. Dahl further shares insights into Deno's architecture, his leadership style, and the ongoing campaign to reclaim the "JavaScript" trademark from Oracle, highlighting his commitment to enhancing the web ecosystem.
