This podcast episode introduces Solomon Hykes, co-founder of Dagger and creator of Docker, to discuss the innovative Dagger platform, which seeks to revolutionize CI/CD processes by containerizing pipelines for improved portability and collaboration. Hykes argues for a programming language-driven approach over traditional configuration files, emphasizing flexibility, efficiency with DAG architecture, and the importance of a cross-language ecosystem. Through insights on Dagger's unique capabilities and its relationship with infrastructure as code, this episode paints a picture of the future of CI/CD that prioritizes developer experience, community involvement, and the seamless integration of tools.