This podcast lecture delves into René Girard's theory of mimetic desire and its significance for understanding human behavior and social dynamics. Girard posits that rather than acting out of rational self-interest, people are motivated by mimetic desire—essentially, we imitate what others want. This imitation can spark mimetic rivalry, where individuals vie for the same desires, leading to conflict and violence. The lecture also highlights the darker side of mimetic desire, illustrating how even our efforts to assert independence or rebel are often influenced by social factors. Ultimately, Girard presents a "theodicy," offering insights into the roots of evil that underscore the limitations of human nature and the inevitability of certain social issues, regardless of how society is structured. This perspective challenges contemporary social theories that believe in the possibility of perfecting humanity through reform.