This podcast episode explores the concept of "reading landscape" as a fundamental skill in permaculture design, emphasizing the importance of slowing down, engaging sensitively with nature, and respecting Indigenous perspectives. It highlights the role of intuition and deep listening in understanding the wisdom of the land and discusses the challenges of reconciling rationalist and intuitive approaches to landscape reading. The episode also touches upon mistakes as a learning opportunity, the changing affordability patterns affecting land ownership, and the release of a film exploring the life and contributions of Dan Holmgren.