This podcast episode examines the complexities surrounding mixed-race identity, illustrated through Donald Trump's comments on Kamala Harris and the evolving representation of biracial characters in media. Author Danzy Senna shares her personal experiences with race, challenges as a novelist and mother, and the impact of her family history, including a lineage tied to slavery. The conversation culminates in a reflection on the themes of cynicism and narrative complexity in her work, emphasizing a desire to transcend simplistic resolutions in storytelling while highlighting the nuances of identity and heritage.