This podcast episode highlights the critical shortcomings in Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) efforts, emphasizing that a singular focus on diversity can lead to systemic inequities and exclusion. Paolo Gaudiano, through insightful analogies and data-driven arguments, reveals that true inclusion—rather than mere representation—is essential for fostering an environment where individuals can thrive. He urges organizations to measure inclusion and exclusion actively, illustrating the undeniable business case for prioritizing DEI initiatives at a level commensurate with traditional business strategies, thereby reinforcing the idea that creating a genuinely inclusive workplace is both a moral imperative and a pathway to enhanced organizational performance.