This podcast episode delves into Pendle's remarkable growth and the strategies that have fueled its success, highlighting the critical role of partnerships, sophisticated trading strategies, and the future direction of the platform amidst challenges such as declining total value locked (TVL). Through insightful discussions, Li outlines how Pendle plans to innovate with new products and expand into the Bitcoin space, as well as the evolving dynamics of crypto points programs, while also catching listeners up on the latest news in the cryptocurrency world.