Nicholas Janni is a pioneer in executive development, having co-founded Olivier Mythodrama Associates, where he created leadership programs based on Shakespearean stories. He continues to work globally with leaders and organizations through his consultancy, Core Presence, and his innovative 'Leader as Healer' program, which promotes integrated, conscious leadership.

How can the ancient practices of spirituality and modern leadership development intersect to create transformative experiences?

In this episode of “Voice with Vervaeke,” John Vervaeke and Nicholas Janni explore this question through a conversation about leadership, spirituality, and human connection. Nicholas shares his transformative journey, from his school days to his encounters with Tibetan Buddhism and immersive theater, which led him to develop a unique approach to spiritual and embodied leadership. They discuss the importance of leaders connecting with their bodies, emotions, and the transpersonal, and the role of practices like bodywork, deep breathing, and poetry in facilitating this connection. Their conversation also explores the metaphysical realm, including prayer and spiritual guidance, and their impact on leadership. John and Nicholas discuss the cultural implications of their work and stress the importance of leaders who can promote this holistic approach to leadership and foster supportive communities for transformative experiences.

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00:00 Introduction: Convergence of Spirituality and Leadership

11:25 From Theatre to Leadership Consultancy

16:40 The Birth of 'Leader as Healer'

23:35 Reawakening Non-Propositional Thinking

43:40 The Transformative Power of Poetry

48:05 Therapy vs. Transformational Work

51:10 Integrating Awakening and Healing

01:02:55 Addressing the Modern Meaning Crisis

01:15:50 Embracing Prayer, Reverence, and Connectedness

01:24:30 Concluding Thoughts: The Imperative to Wake Up

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Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode

Nicholas Janni, Leader as Healer

Heinrich Päs, The One: How an Ancient Idea Holds the Future of Physics

Vivian Dittmar

Richard Olivier

Shakespeare's Globe Theatre

Shakespeare, W. Henry V.

Shakespeare, W. Julius Caesar.

Shakespeare, W. The Tempest.

Malidoma Somé

Michael Meade

Patrick Connor

Charles Taylor

David Wyatt
Mary Oliver, Wild Geese.

Plato

René Descartes

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