The final installment of Yowei's quest to solve the mystery of proxy converations.

In this episode, Yowei talks to a ritual expert and tries explaining what she's learned about proxy conversations to her mom.

From the episode:

Michael Norton is a behavior scientist, Harvard Business School professor, and the author of The Ritual Effect: From Habit to Ritual, Harness the Surprising Power of Everyday Actions.
Yowei's grieving ritual for her layoff: Gold Star (The Layoff Song)

Episode credits:

Produced by Yowei Shaw and Kim Nederveen Pieterse
Mixed by Kyle Pulley

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#7 The Proxy Mystery (Part 4 of 4): Ritual

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