This podcast episode delves into Pope Francis's ongoing efforts to foster unity within the Catholic Church in China through a controversial agreement that allows the Pope some influence over bishop appointments. While voices like Father Jeroom Heyndrickx see it as a step towards reconciliation, the underground church, led by figures like Cardinal Joseph Zen, feels betrayed and abandoned. Critics like Samuel Chu warn that the Vatican's decision compromises the church's autonomy, allowing the Chinese government greater control. In a broader context, analysts like John Allen suggest that the Vatican's long-standing strategy emphasizes gradual engagement with China, which raises complex questions about the future of Christianity in the country amid the push for Sinazization, highlighting contrasting interpretations of the agreement—some view it as a betrayal, while others consider it a strategic maneuver.