This podcast episode highlights the critical role of data-driven strategies in advancing diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) amidst ongoing backlash, advocating for accountability, effective measurement of outcomes, and a focus on meaningful results rather than mere activities. Lily Zheng emphasizes that navigating the complexities and anxiety surrounding DEI requires a commitment to transparent data collection, reframing initiatives to counter political pressures, and fostering an inclusive environment that prioritizes outcomes such as pay equity and psychological safety.