👉🏼 About the Guest:

Blake Emal is the CEO and founder behind Pagetear. He is the 10-year marketer behind Marketing Monday and has been an SEO Specialist, agency manager, marketing leader at a $10B tech co, and ex-CMO of Copy.ai.

👉🏼 About the Host:

Sharath is a founder, creator, and community builder. He is also a serial maker who built and shipped 15+ projects using no-code tools. His SaaS product Shoutout generated $30k ARR, which was sold to a UK-based product studio. Prev, Sharath worked for world-changing startups like Product Hunt and On Deck, where he helped build and nurture communities. He also grew his audience on Twitter from 200 to 22,000 using give-first principles and creating high-value content. Currently, he is building a SaaS product called GuestLab, and runs another podcast series called YC Founder Stories alongside hosting this one, as well as running Founder Gigs, a resource to discover flexible gigs while building your dream business.

👉🏼 Sponsor Corner:

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👉🏼 Description:

Listen in as Sharath and Blake discuss how to convert your landing page visitors into buyers, the art of landing pages, how to blend AI and design, and more!

👉🏼 Timestamps:

00:00: Episode Highlight
01:00: Shoutout to Acquire.com and Sunset
04:18: Introduction to Blake Emal - landing page whiz and CEO and founder behind Pagetear!
05:38: How SaaS landing pages have evolved
08:13: How to differentiate yourself in landing page design
14:21: How websites can use AI for better copy and design
17:21: How to bring the human touch to copywriting
21:00: How to make the best first impression with your landing page
25:19: The best landing page triggers to purchase for a customer
29:04: How to balance SEO and emotional writing on your landing page
31:46: Blake's secret tips to improve landing page conversions
34:05: How to organize your landing page to increase conversions
40:13: What Blake is going to recommend to his next client
45:33: How Blake balances being a founder with being a copywriter
51:11: What is working for people trying to build their personal brands on social media?
58:55: The next iteration for growing on social media
59:43: If Blake started Pagetear again, what would he change?
1:02:30: Outro and closing thoughts

👉🏼 Resources:

Link to Acquire.com: https://try.acquire.com/sharath/
Link to Sunset: https://www.sunsethq.com

👉🏼 Where to find Blake:

Website: https://blakeemal.com/
Pagetear: https://pagetear.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/heyblake
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/uxblake

👉🏼 Where to find Sharath:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/5harath
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@5harath
Website: https://5harath.com/
Newsletter: https://5harath.substack.com/
Founder Gigs: https://foundergigs.com/

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