This podcast episode features a dynamic discussion with General Stanley McChrystal and poker champion Liv Boeree, emphasizing the intersection between military leadership principles and personal resilience, as well as the evolution of skills in competitive contexts. McChrystal shares insights from his military career, including the power of trust and the importance of pushing individuals beyond their limits, while Boeree highlights her journey from a metalhead to a successful poker player, navigating the mental challenges of the game and her metaphysical experiences. Together, they explore the role of skepticism in science and the societal implications of negative sum games, leaving listeners with a profound understanding of leadership, personal growth, and the complexities of human experience.