Episode 71: Deepak Chopra (4th conversation)

Deepak Chopra interviews Rupert Spira about his new book, "The Heart of Prayer," which is a compilation of guided meditations from retreats, reformulated in terms of prayer and being. Spira explains the direct method, which involves going directly to one's essential self or being, the "I am," without intermediaries like mantras or the breath. They discuss the nature of "I am" as a constant, changeless awareness, exploring its presence in sleep, dreams, and even at birth and death. The conversation delves into the relationship between infinite being and finite minds, with Spira suggesting that space-time is a construct of the finite mind. They touch on the concept of love as the recognition of shared being and the potential for expanded awareness through meditation and art, ultimately concluding that experiencing fundamental reality transcends constructs like birth and death.