This podcast episode features an engaging conversation between Ezra Klein and Governor Gretchen Whitmer, who discusses her political journey, her impactful "Fix the Damn Roads" campaign slogan stemming from active listening to constituents, and her transition to advocating for abortion rights amid political challenges. Whitmer articulates the necessity of clear communication and personal storytelling in policy advocacy, highlights the importance of collaboration across the aisle, and reflects on the dynamics of gender politics affecting the 2024 election landscape. Throughout the dialogue, she emphasizes authenticity in leadership and the significance of meeting voter expectations to cultivate trust and engagement within the political system.