Matt Pottinger: Searching for an Endgame With China | Foreign Affairs Interview

This podcast episode explores the shift in America's China policy and the challenges posed by Beijing to American national security, prosperity, and democracy. It discusses the need for a clear goal and taking on more risk in managing competition with China. The repercussions of previous detente policies and the importance of alliances and partnerships are also addressed. The episode highlights China's involvement in fentanyl trafficking and the desire for a better model in China. It emphasizes the need to confront Xi Jinping's hostile actions and protect American interests. The complex dynamics between the US and China, the concept of strategic clarity, and the use of gray zone tactics are discussed. The section also emphasizes the importance of supporting Ukraine to prevent Russian aggression and deter China. It concludes with potential strategic moves in a future Trump term, including technology access, credible military, and trade measures.