This podcast episode explores various topics related to space science advocacy, the Mars Sample Return program, and the challenges it faces. Casey shares personal experiences and highlights the success of the Day of Action in advocating for space science. The impact of the new Speaker of the House on advocacy work is discussed, as well as the importance of prioritizing planetary science in government funding. The complexities and expenses associated with the Mars Sample Return mission are thoroughly examined, along with the challenges and uncertainties surrounding its planning and execution. The need for unity, communication, and support within the Mars exploration community is emphasized. The podcast concludes with a call to action for listeners to engage and support these important missions.