This podcast episode explores the mindset and benefits of playing games, both video games and traditional games like golf. It emphasizes the development of skills, the growth of collective intelligence, and the optimization of game design. The concept of a gameful mindset is discussed, highlighting its application in everyday life and its ability to foster adaptability and resilience. The transformative power of gaming experiences in real-world challenges is explored, as well as the positive and negative effects of video games on emotional well-being and motivation. The episode concludes with discussions on using games to tackle unpleasant experiences, the role of games in social interactions, and the emergence of game studies as an academic subject.