In this podcast episode, the hosts delve into the intriguing tale of Pope Joan, a woman who allegedly masqueraded as a pope. They explore the origins and development of this captivating legend, examining historical accounts and the social implications of female leadership in the Church. The discussion includes a critical analysis of evidence that challenges the myth, alongside alternative explanations tied to the complex history of the 9th-century papacy. Ultimately, the episode reflects on the broader themes of women's roles in Catholic doctrine and the lasting impact of Pope Joan, especially in today's conversations about female authority in religion.