This podcast episode explores the challenges faced by political leaders in navigating the transition from candidate to chief executive, the complexities of policy-making in the era of AI, the importance of bridging the gap between policy makers and change makers, and the role of governance and leadership in the development of countries. The conversation also delves into specific examples, such as the success of Singapore and the challenges of reforming the public sector. Former Prime Minister Tony Blair discusses the changing dynamics of the global stage and the challenges posed by China and Russia, emphasizing the need for cooperation, engagement, and adaptation to technological advancements.